Tuesday, April 18, 2006

3:25 PM 

Happy Easter

Well, sort of. Since it's around that time of year, I thought I'd reproduce a conversation that I read on a messageboard on the theme. It's stuff like this that gets me through the day...

Was Jesus' pa Antipater, son of Herod?

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RosyLovelady - 06:43pm Apr 9, 2006 GMT (#9 of 56)
Just one tiny detail: wasn't Herod Antipater the father, or possibly the grandfather, of Herod the Great? Not the son, anyway.

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lostitmi5 - 06:47pm Apr 9, 2006 GMT (#10 of 56)
Just one tiny detail: wasn't Herod Antipater the father, or possibly the grandfather, of Herod the Great? Not the son, anyway.

Antipater was Herod's father. Herod had a son named Antipater, also. I hope that helps.

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RosyLovelady - 06:49pm Apr 9, 2006 GMT (#11 of 56)
People who name their children after themselves, generation after generation, should be wheeled out and shot. It always ends badly. It usually starts badly, for that matter.

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swamprat - 06:53pm Apr 9, 2006 GMT (#12 of 56)
I agee, George Bush is a prime example!

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raymie75 - 09:46pm Apr 9, 2006 GMT (#14 of 56)

Antipater as Jesus' father is the premise of King Jesus by Robert Graves

Antipater being the son of Herod

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AllPreachRebellion - 09:43am Apr 12, 2006 GMT (#30 of 56)

RosyLovelady - People who name their children after themselves, generation after generation, should be wheeled out and shot.

Appropriately, 'Antipater' means 'like the father'. Though you wouldn't necessarily think that.

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SalfordLad - 09:50am Apr 12, 2006 GMT (#31 of 56)


I thought that 'antipater' was an Italian first course.

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AllPreachRebellion - 09:51am Apr 12, 2006 GMT (#32 of 56)

And 'innuendo' is an Italian suppository, right?

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CaptLockheed - 09:51am Apr 12, 2006 GMT (#33 of 56)

so if pater and antipater collide is there a massive explosion?

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dottie30 - 10:48am Apr 13, 2006 GMT (#40 of 56)
So there's a theory that Mary bonked one of the Herods hey? Seems rather far-fetched - what would a narcisstic king be doing with a pauper from Nazareth?

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Luciagraphica - 01:12pm Apr 13, 2006 GMT (#41 of 56)
Who sez they were paupers?

BTW has anyone visited tribal cultures? Camps where illiterate and primitive people exist today are a good indication of the common lifestyle way back when.

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CaptLockheed - 01:13pm Apr 13, 2006 GMT (#42 of 56)

BTW has anyone visited tribal cultures?

I grew up in Coventry, so yes.

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policywatcher - 01:20pm Apr 13, 2006 GMT (#43 of 56)


> Luciagraphica - 01:12pm Apr 13, 2006 GMT (#41 of 42)

> Who sez they were paupers?


Indeed, they probably weren't.

Both claimed descent from the royal house.

Joseph was a carpenter - a skilled trade in demand.

Though not farmers, they could afford a beast of burden.

The gifts at the birth were expensive by the standards of the day, and would have had significant commercial value, giving them a valuable additional capital boost to a family business.

They could afford to go from Nazareth and visit the temple at Jerusalem - no small distance in those days.

In modern terms they'd probably have been in the comparatively well-off self-employed tradesman class, with a nice house in the suburbs, at least a second-hand BMW on the drive, and able to take a nice holiday on the med.

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